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the vice presidential debate is coming up. >> it just so happens joe biden and paul ryan respect each other and get along well. those two were the ones that had allhe protestants. i think this will be a fun debate, and enjoyable debate. joe biden has a good sense of humor. you are not going to see him paint barack obama in his debate. >> i hope it is more interesting. yes, there were 50 million people calling the first debate, and the question i have is, for how long? i was sitting there thinking, ok, obama did not show up to play, and this is unbelievably borig. if i did n havto do this for a living, i would turn on a show i wanted to watch. >> it depends on your perspective. i was fascinated, i was seized. my attention did not lapse for an hour-and-a-half. i have a medical question. if you saw the joe biden clip, how does a man of a certain age maintain such a high level of indignation continuously without getting a heart attack? can you believe what he is doing, all of this stuff? i think he needso go easy, and i say that as a punt medical opinion, not political. we are going to ra
the vice presidential debate is coming up. >> it just so happens joe biden and paul ryan respect each other and get along well. those two were the ones that had allhe protestants. i think this will be a fun debate, and enjoyable debate. joe biden has a good sense of humor. you are not going to see him paint barack obama in his debate. >> i hope it is more interesting. yes, there were 50 million people calling the first debate, and the question i have is, for how long? i was sitting...
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and by the way, the idea came not even from paul ryan or senator widen, the coauthor of the bill with paul riden it became from bill clinton's cef of staff. this is an idea that's been around for a long time. we're saying, let's see if we can get competition into the medicare world so people can get the choice of different plans at lower cost, better quality. i believe in competition. >> jim, if i can just respond quickly. first of all, every study has shown that medicare has lower administrative costs than private insurance does, which is why seniorly are generally pretty happy with it, and private insurance has to make a profit. there's nothing wrong with that. that's what they do. so you ha hier administrative costs. plus profit. on top of that. and if you are going to save any money through what governor romney's proposing, what has to happen is that the money has to come from somewhere. and when you move to a vouch erp system, you are putting seniors at the mercy of those insurance companies, and over time, if traditional medicare has decade or fallen apart, then they're stuck. a
and by the way, the idea came not even from paul ryan or senator widen, the coauthor of the bill with paul riden it became from bill clinton's cef of staff. this is an idea that's been around for a long time. we're saying, let's see if we can get competition into the medicare world so people can get the choice of different plans at lower cost, better quality. i believe in competition. >> jim, if i can just respond quickly. first of all, every study has shown that medicare has lower...
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there is obviously an important debate next week between our vice president and paul ryan. we have another debate in 11 days. we look forward to continuing to make the case. >> you used the words i think dishonest or not making an honest argument. you just did it again. do you believe that mitt romney is intentionally lying about his record or lying about his plans? >> well, i think i -- he is. you know, chuck, this is the cornerstone of his entire campaign and his economic plan. it really was a remarkable thing. it would be like in 2008 if we got on the stage and said i don't want to end the iraq war and i'm not for health care reform. you know, i don't want to have a green energy future. it is an amazing thing. and the reason he is trying to obfuscate here is because that tax cut plan is something the american people don't want to support. a huge tax cut for the wealthy paid for by the middle class or blowing a hole in our deficit. the wrong recipe for both david, he says his plan is not a tax cut plan. and that, you know, he is going to find a way to offset them. do you
there is obviously an important debate next week between our vice president and paul ryan. we have another debate in 11 days. we look forward to continuing to make the case. >> you used the words i think dishonest or not making an honest argument. you just did it again. do you believe that mitt romney is intentionally lying about his record or lying about his plans? >> well, i think i -- he is. you know, chuck, this is the cornerstone of his entire campaign and his economic plan. it...
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the idea came not from paul ryan but also it came from bill clinton's chief of staff. this is an idea that has been around for a long time. we are saying let's bring competition into the medicare were also people can get a choice of different plans at lower cost, better quality, and better competition. >> first of all, every study has shown that meeicare has lower administrative costs than private insurance does, which is why seniors are generally pretty happy with it. private insurance has to make a profit. there is nothing wrong with that, that is what they do. so you have higher administrative costs, plus profit on top of that, and if you were going to save any money through what governor romney is proposing, what would have to happen is, the money has to come from somewhere. when you move to a voucher system, you are putting seniors at the mercy of those insurance companies. over time, if traditional medicare has decayed or fall apart, and they are stopped. this is the reason why aarp has said that your plan would weaken medicare substaatially, and that is why they
the idea came not from paul ryan but also it came from bill clinton's chief of staff. this is an idea that has been around for a long time. we are saying let's bring competition into the medicare were also people can get a choice of different plans at lower cost, better quality, and better competition. >> first of all, every study has shown that meeicare has lower administrative costs than private insurance does, which is why seniors are generally pretty happy with it. private insurance...
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in clinton, iowa, vice presidential nominee paul ryan said a romney administration would help more americans find jobs. >> we have a jobs crisis in america. wouldn't it be nice to have a job creator in the white house? ( applause ) we can't afford four more years. we need a real recovery. take a look at just jobs. we lost 582,000 manufacturing jobs since the president took office. he's offering a new tax increase on our job creators that will cost us 700,000 jobs. we're offering really forms. >> ifill: whh candidate has thbetterlan to get the economy back on track? that's the key question in battleground states like north carolina, which only months ago seemed out of reach for the democrats this year. but it's back in play again. jeffrey brown traveled there to discover why. >> lead the way. brown: 26-year-old dewayne owens who served in the marines and is now a professional mixeded marshal artist usually takes on tougher opponents than your correspondent. >> i see. brown: but this weekend on a break from training at the gym in durham, he offered a few pointers >> when i kick i'm thinking ab
in clinton, iowa, vice presidential nominee paul ryan said a romney administration would help more americans find jobs. >> we have a jobs crisis in america. wouldn't it be nice to have a job creator in the white house? ( applause ) we can't afford four more years. we need a real recovery. take a look at just jobs. we lost 582,000 manufacturing jobs since the president took office. he's offering a new tax increase on our job creators that will cost us 700,000 jobs. we're offering really...
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but by picking paul ryan and laying out why he picked paul ryan, he picked paul ryan because paul ryan does represent the ideological -- how do i say it? the center of the republican party. he said, basically, that's why i'm picking paul ryan. now we don't have to guess about what governor romney meands means when he says things about medicare, social security, and all these things. it is almost like two incumbents running. because paul ryan, and i mean this sincerely, paul ryan introduced the ren republican budget in the house of representatives, sold by the republicans, that in fact lays out in stark detail what they would do on everything from medicare to medicaid to social security to education to the debt. i mean, across the board. so we don't have to wonder anymore. we don't have to wonder any more what governor romney means when he says a, b, c, or d. what they are doing these days, if you noticed, they are not talking anymore about what paul ryan and mitt romney are for. they are spending a lot of time telling you what we are against and what we have done. they have attacked ev
but by picking paul ryan and laying out why he picked paul ryan, he picked paul ryan because paul ryan does represent the ideological -- how do i say it? the center of the republican party. he said, basically, that's why i'm picking paul ryan. now we don't have to guess about what governor romney meands means when he says things about medicare, social security, and all these things. it is almost like two incumbents running. because paul ryan, and i mean this sincerely, paul ryan introduced the...
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it came not only for paul ryan, but also came from bill clinton's chief of staff this is an idea that's been around a long time. saying, hey, let's see if we can't get competition into the medicare world so people can get the choice of different plans at lower cost, better qualities. >> jim, if i can respond very quickly. first of all, every study has shown medicare has lower administrative costs than private insurance does, which is why seniors are generally pretty happy with it, and private insurance has to make a profit. nothing wrong, that's what they do. and so you have higher administrative costs, plus profit, on top of that. and if you are going to save any money through what governor romney is proposing, what has to happen, the money has to come from somewhere. and when you move to a voucher system, you are putting seniors at the mercy of those insurance companies, and over time if traditional medicare has decayed or fallen apart, they are stuck. and this is the reason why aarp has said that your plan would weaken substantially and that's why they were supportive of the approach
it came not only for paul ryan, but also came from bill clinton's chief of staff this is an idea that's been around a long time. saying, hey, let's see if we can't get competition into the medicare world so people can get the choice of different plans at lower cost, better qualities. >> jim, if i can respond very quickly. first of all, every study has shown medicare has lower administrative costs than private insurance does, which is why seniors are generally pretty happy with it, and...
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paul ryan in the senate, but it came from bill clinton's chief of staff. this is an idea that's been around for a long time, which is saying, hey, let's see if we can get competition into the medicare world so that people who get the choice of different plans at lower cost, better quality. i believe in competition. >> jim, if i can just respond quickly, first of all, every study has shown that medicare has lower administrative costs than private insurance does, which is why seniors are generally pretty happy with it. and private insurers have to make a profit. nothing wrong with that. that's what they do. you have higher administrative costs, plus profit on top of that. and if you're going to save any money through what governor romney's proposing, what has happened is the money has to come from somewhere. and when you move to about a system, you are putting seniors at the mercy of those insurance companies. and over time, if traditional medicare has decayed or fallen apart, then they're stuck. and this is the reason why aarp has said that your plan would
paul ryan in the senate, but it came from bill clinton's chief of staff. this is an idea that's been around for a long time, which is saying, hey, let's see if we can get competition into the medicare world so that people who get the choice of different plans at lower cost, better quality. i believe in competition. >> jim, if i can just respond quickly, first of all, every study has shown that medicare has lower administrative costs than private insurance does, which is why seniors are...
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if paul ryan doesn't get pushed, biden will be ready to go after him. in the last vice presidential debate i knew his stuff. even though as you showed in that clip he and mccain were good friends, he was aggressive in going after mccain and his friends. >> this was tuesday. >> why aren't you more specific i heard you sunday when you were on fox and you didn't answer his question about how we're going to you know what are your plans? >> oh, yeah, look, when you get in 0 a math conversation it can take a little while. >> steve, we've got time. >> you know, yeah, joe biden is going to step back and go take your time. go ahead, you know, we can listen. >> yeah, there is this famous s and l sketch from the 1988 election. and he said you got 1:30 and talk about what you do for the homeless problem. he says i don't have enough time there is so much to get to. you know what, we have stopped the clock for you. and he stairs. you wonder, the thing was, in the debate last night. obama had multiple opportunities to press romney and be specific on the math and prese
if paul ryan doesn't get pushed, biden will be ready to go after him. in the last vice presidential debate i knew his stuff. even though as you showed in that clip he and mccain were good friends, he was aggressive in going after mccain and his friends. >> this was tuesday. >> why aren't you more specific i heard you sunday when you were on fox and you didn't answer his question about how we're going to you know what are your plans? >> oh, yeah, look, when you get in 0 a math...
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let's break down what paul ryan is actually saying here. romney and ryan will give $5 trillion in tax breaks to the wealthiest americans. subtract an unspecified amount of money of unnamed deductions. somehow you're going to get a revenue neutral tax plan. it's a plan so bogus not even a fox news host can understand it. >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the -- it would take me too long to go through the math. >> paul ryan, paul ryan, if you want to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, we're going to have to explain your plans to the american people. take all the time you want. especially here on "the ed show." you guys have been complaining about media fairness preponderance let's talk it over. today paul ryan told a radio host in milwaukee why he wouldn't give chris wallace the math. >> i didn't want to get into all the math of this because everybody would start changing the channel. >> so nice of paul ryan to be concerned about chris wallace's ratings rather than presenting the e details of his plan to the voters. paul
let's break down what paul ryan is actually saying here. romney and ryan will give $5 trillion in tax breaks to the wealthiest americans. subtract an unspecified amount of money of unnamed deductions. somehow you're going to get a revenue neutral tax plan. it's a plan so bogus not even a fox news host can understand it. >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the -- it would take me too long to go through the math. >> paul ryan, paul ryan, if you want to be a...
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all of you republicans seem to bant paul ryawant paul ryan for, but he's not. >> i heard you say no about the idea of tax simplification. why is that not a good thing? >> we're all basing this argument predicated on lower tax rates are going to stimulate things. companies are not using the industrial capacity they have now. they laid off workers because there's no demand. cut their taxes, it doesn't mean they're going to build another factory if people aren't buying their goods. it's lunacy to think this would fix the problem. it's not a tax problem. it's a job problem. >> look what happened in the '80s. even when nowhere cut the capital gains, investment went up. in the second quarter in this country, capital gains grew 0%. >> go ahead, mark. >> we've had a lost decade. a lot of that we did cut taxes and -- >> by the time bush put in his second round of tax cuts in 2003 through the end of his presidency, he created over 2 million jobs in this country. >> hold on, guys. trends over time, when you go back to 1983, you look at that long period of time where median income went up during the
all of you republicans seem to bant paul ryawant paul ryan for, but he's not. >> i heard you say no about the idea of tax simplification. why is that not a good thing? >> we're all basing this argument predicated on lower tax rates are going to stimulate things. companies are not using the industrial capacity they have now. they laid off workers because there's no demand. cut their taxes, it doesn't mean they're going to build another factory if people aren't buying their goods....
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that's the plan i put forward and the idea came not even from paul ryan or senator riden, but it came from bill clinton's chief of staff. this is an idea which has been around for a long time. saying hey let's see if we can't get competition into the medicare world so people can get a choice at lower cost better quality, i believe in competition. >> obama: first of all every study has shown that medicare has lower administrative costs than private insurance does. and private insurance has to make a profit. nothing wrong with that. that's what they do. so you have hire administrative costs, plus profit on top of that, and if you are going to save any money through what governor romney is proposing what has to happen is that the money has to come from somewhere, and when you move to a voucher system you are cutting seniors at the mercy of those insurance companies, and over time if traditional medicare had decayed or fallen apart then they are stuck. this is the reason why aarp has said that your plan would weaken medicare substantially, and that's why they were supportive of the approa
that's the plan i put forward and the idea came not even from paul ryan or senator riden, but it came from bill clinton's chief of staff. this is an idea which has been around for a long time. saying hey let's see if we can't get competition into the medicare world so people can get a choice at lower cost better quality, i believe in competition. >> obama: first of all every study has shown that medicare has lower administrative costs than private insurance does. and private insurance has...
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home state of the republican vice presidential candidate paul ryan. after making his very first remarks since last night's showdown. >> we believe in a country where hard work pays off and where responsibility's rewarded and everybody's getting a fair shot and doing their fair share and everybody plays by the rules. that's what i'm fighting for. that's why i'm running for a second term as president of the united states and that's why i want your vote. >>> just in to cnn, a source tells our barbara starr at the pentagon a fbi investigative team has finally made it to the site of last month's deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in libya. the fbi team was stalled for three weeks because of security concerns. that attack killed four americans including u.s. ambassador to libya chris stevens. stay right there. we'll be back at the top of the hour for a full analysis of each man's performance and what happens from here. but now, let me take you back to that debate. >> i think we have another clear difference between the two of you. now let's move to health
home state of the republican vice presidential candidate paul ryan. after making his very first remarks since last night's showdown. >> we believe in a country where hard work pays off and where responsibility's rewarded and everybody's getting a fair shot and doing their fair share and everybody plays by the rules. that's what i'm fighting for. that's why i'm running for a second term as president of the united states and that's why i want your vote. >>> just in to cnn, a source...
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>> i sit on the budget committee with paul ryan. i've had an opportunity to debate him on many occasion. this is a case of birds of a feather. the only difference between mitt romney and paul ryan is 17% that they dismiss. >> why are they running around the country kiting us in half saying these bums. i don't want their votes? >> because they believe that half the country doesn't matter. they don't get that the percentage of americans that they are dismissing and calling victims and government dependence are our veterans or 20 million seniors who paid into medicare and social security their whole lives and now deserve to have that safety net in place for them. or college students like those that go here to the university of denver who need to make sure that they can go to college and afford it and have a student loan interest rate that's low enough for them to be able to pay back their loans. >> let's talk sheer politic, the elite ruling of the world. why, joy, does a politician trying to get 51%, as romney has been saying for month
>> i sit on the budget committee with paul ryan. i've had an opportunity to debate him on many occasion. this is a case of birds of a feather. the only difference between mitt romney and paul ryan is 17% that they dismiss. >> why are they running around the country kiting us in half saying these bums. i don't want their votes? >> because they believe that half the country doesn't matter. they don't get that the percentage of americans that they are dismissing and calling...
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mitt romney and paul ryan are due to be in virginia. live, jim rosenfield, news 4, back to you. >> other news now, new developments that's linked to steroid injections but used to relieve se vooer back pain. the pharmacy that shipped those steroid shots has voluntarily shut down. health officials severe meningitis including virginia and maryland. four people have died. officials are still trying to track down hundreds of people who may have received ser roid injections shipped from that fapharmacy. >> their 72-year-old father was brutally beaten. he's in critical condition tonight. police are canvassing the streets trying to come up with some clues. >> i'm very sad. all of our family is very sad. >> reporter: her family were worries her 72-year-old father won't survive a vicious beating. he clings to life with a severe brain injury. >> they left him in the cold, in the rain, without cloths, took off his shoes and everything. >> reporter: his son found him unconscious lie k in a parking lot. two minutes from his silver spring apartment.
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we know mitt romney campaigned on paul ryan's budget. >> yes, he did. >> paul ryan is paul ryan because of that budget. and, you know, i don't think that there's any chance that's not going to be part of the conversation next week. >> stephanie cutter, thank you for your time tonight on "the ed show." appreciate it. remember to answer tonight's question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter and @edshow and on facebook. we want to know what you think. >>> coming up, president obama was fired up today and we want to see more of that in the next debate. e.j. dionne and sam stein join me for the conversation. where are we now? don't you love me? i'm a robot. i know. i know you're a robot! but there's more in you than just circuits and wires! uhhh. (cries) a machine can't give you what a person can. that's why ally has knowledgeable people there for you, night and day. ally bank. your money needs an ally. >>> coming up, president obama says we can't double down on the policies that created the recession. find out why mitt romney's five-point plan is more of the same, ne
we know mitt romney campaigned on paul ryan's budget. >> yes, he did. >> paul ryan is paul ryan because of that budget. and, you know, i don't think that there's any chance that's not going to be part of the conversation next week. >> stephanie cutter, thank you for your time tonight on "the ed show." appreciate it. remember to answer tonight's question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter and @edshow and on facebook. we want to know what you...
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and paul ryan is very smart. i think he's going to have a great night. i think they're going to meet -- chris: one thing about the media i'm not a media critic, but i think we say gaffe and in his case i think we are gaffes and used the wrong word and could have said the middle class is being squeezed instead of buried and no comment about it but if somebody says something in the back room and i don't give a damn about half the country, that's not a gaffe but a revelation. >> biden by the way knows this debate is a really big deal. chris: yeah. >> biden has to keep it together. but if he does, he has a major advantage and that is most of the stuff that ryan is selling, especially on the economy is just not true. it has a proven track record of failure. chris: is he the kind of guy to do that? >> the record, that's what he has to do. chris: if he keeps it serious and sober, will he beat joe biden, doesn't he have to be the puppy dog that slobbers all over you? >> he's planning to go after paul ryan's budget cuts and make them specific and make them real.
and paul ryan is very smart. i think he's going to have a great night. i think they're going to meet -- chris: one thing about the media i'm not a media critic, but i think we say gaffe and in his case i think we are gaffes and used the wrong word and could have said the middle class is being squeezed instead of buried and no comment about it but if somebody says something in the back room and i don't give a damn about half the country, that's not a gaffe but a revelation. >> biden by the...
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we know mitt romney campaigned on paul ryan's budget. >> yes, he did. >> paul ryan is paul ryan because of that budget. and, you know, i don't think that there's any chance that's not going to be part of the conversation next week. >> stephanie cutter, thank you for your time tonight on "the ed show." appreciate it. remember to answer tonight's question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter and @edshow and on facebook. we want to know what you think. >>> coming up, president obama was fired up today and we want to see more of that in the next debate. e.j. dionne and sam stein join me for the conversation. where are we now? somemes a good deal isn't such a good deal. but bounty gives you value you can see. in this lab demo, one sheet of bounty leaves this surface cleaner than two sheets of the leading ordinary brand. bounty. the clean picker upper. than two sheets of the leading ordinary brand. [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insurance protects them. [ thunder crashes ] it doesn't. stop p
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governor romney and his running mate paul ryan will be in virginia today. we will be watching the polls to see if romney gets any post-debate bounce. dagen and connell, back to you. connell: peter thanks. still live for us in denver this morning. dagen: for more reaction to the debate, let's bring in jim pinkerton, he's a fox news contributor. your heart has to be warmed by the amount that taxes were discussed last night. >> i was amazed. look that was a fierce debate and i think governor romney clearly won. it seems like all the pundits agree on that. but what was remarkable as you said was that there was so much agreement on this one issue of the corporate income tax. they both said get the top rate from 35, which is the highest in the world, down to 25, and who knew there would be this island of agreement and consensus amidst a pretty tough presidential campaign. connell: a lot of numbers, as you say, corporate taxes coming down, and then this whole debate, the first part of it was spent on this idea that governor romney's proposing a quote unquote 5 tri
governor romney and his running mate paul ryan will be in virginia today. we will be watching the polls to see if romney gets any post-debate bounce. dagen and connell, back to you. connell: peter thanks. still live for us in denver this morning. dagen: for more reaction to the debate, let's bring in jim pinkerton, he's a fox news contributor. your heart has to be warmed by the amount that taxes were discussed last night. >> i was amazed. look that was a fierce debate and i think governor...
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one from the right on president obama and one from the left on paul ryan. will either have an impact? al sharp top is going to join me. plus, joe biden a sex symbol? i'm going to talk to politico's -- they're dancing on the set. we're going to talk about this with jonathan allen, who says vice president biden is bringing sexy back to the medicare crowd and what do you think? we want to hear from you. do you think one of the candidates will deliver a knockout punch? you can tweet me and we'll get some of your responses. i can't believe you're missing chris and joy dancing. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. >>> on the day of the presidential debate, two tapes from the past are creating talking points on both sides of the aisle. from the right, a 2007 tape that news organizations including nbc covered during the 2008 campaign of barack obama
one from the right on president obama and one from the left on paul ryan. will either have an impact? al sharp top is going to join me. plus, joe biden a sex symbol? i'm going to talk to politico's -- they're dancing on the set. we're going to talk about this with jonathan allen, who says vice president biden is bringing sexy back to the medicare crowd and what do you think? we want to hear from you. do you think one of the candidates will deliver a knockout punch? you can tweet me and we'll...
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we know mitt romney campaigned on paul ryan's budget. >> yes, he did. >> paul ryan is paul ryan because of that budget. and, you know, i don't think that there's any chance that's not going to be part of the conversation next week. >> stephanie cutter, thank you for your time tonight on "the ed show." appreciate it. remember to answer tonight's question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter and @edshow and on facebook. we want to know what you think. >>> coming up, president obama was fired up today and we want to see more of that in the next debate. e.j. dionne and sam stein join me for the conversation. where are we now? a $100 cream. flabbergasted when we creamed a $500 cream. for about $30 regenerist micro-sculpting cream hydrates better than over 20 of america's most expensive luxury creams. fantastic. phenomenal. regenerist. try the #1 gastroenterologist recommended probiotic. align. align naturally helps maintain digestive balance. ♪ ooh, baby, can i do for you today? ♪ try align today. ♪ ooh, baby, can i do for you today? ♪ ends columbus day. invent
we know mitt romney campaigned on paul ryan's budget. >> yes, he did. >> paul ryan is paul ryan because of that budget. and, you know, i don't think that there's any chance that's not going to be part of the conversation next week. >> stephanie cutter, thank you for your time tonight on "the ed show." appreciate it. remember to answer tonight's question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter and @edshow and on facebook. we want to know what you...
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what he does not mention is paul ryan made the same projections for his original plan, but needed is right. both of these candidates are not being totally straight with the voters. president obama goes after romney and ryan in the way that the democrats always go after the gop when it comes to entitlements, but as we know, last summer, president obama was having to make changes to medicare in exchange to getting a grand bargain. if he is reelected, he will have to go back to the table, and i'm sure the same question will be on the table again. he says he is open to make some changes. >> let me explain the difference between what obama would do with the $716 billion, and what the romney -- what paul ryan would do. obama takes the money out of medicare and reduces the payments to doctors and hospitals, which obviously reduces services. 16 of all hospitals will have to shut down or refuse the elderly. he takes the money, the seven and 16 he saves, and places it into a new entitlement called obamacare, which will fund the uninsured. a good cause, but it is taking from to a and giving to
what he does not mention is paul ryan made the same projections for his original plan, but needed is right. both of these candidates are not being totally straight with the voters. president obama goes after romney and ryan in the way that the democrats always go after the gop when it comes to entitlements, but as we know, last summer, president obama was having to make changes to medicare in exchange to getting a grand bargain. if he is reelected, he will have to go back to the table, and i'm...